you had a chance to speak to the texas governor. how did that go? >> i said governor, if i take that literally, is what you're saying is that you stunk the joint up the first three quarters and you're going to find a way to win at the end? >> there may be some out there my first three debates that say we stunk it up pretty bad, but we've had three really good debates and last night, i think we had the opportunity to really get our message home and hammer it home about being an outsider, about getting this country back working. so that's my goal is to tim tebow, i got great respect for him. both a man of faith and quite a talent and lot of people said he couldn't make it. couldn't do it and he's showing them wrong. >> showing them wrong is what rick perry says he's going to do in iowa. very important, the tim tebow reference, not only a sports reference, but a devout christian. even a lot of the people here at this event, rick perry was campaigning here at the copper cuff cafe, a lot of people, several evangelical voters here, women, who said they're